Disorder

Gone are the days of coherent international coordination. Rather than working together to solve pressing crises, many of the world’s most powerful states are actively making those crises worse. The result? We’re living through a novel historical era: The Global Enduring Disorder. The Disorder podcast, in partnership with RUSI, teases out the key principles that connect seemingly disparate challenges: from Climate Change to Tax Havens, to Unregulated Cyberspace, to the Wars in Ukraine, Syria, and Libya. Jason Pack, Associate Fellow at RUSI, and returning cohosts, discuss with world-leading experts, senior diplomats and cultural icons, the fundamental principles lurking behind today’s global issues. At the conclusion of each episode, they will proposing inventive, win-win solutions to the globe’s most pressing challenges aka, ‘Ordering the Disorder’. Website: https://disordershow.com/

Recent Episodes
  • Ep 117. Ukraine’s Resilience in the Face of War
    May 13, 2025 – 01:02:43
  • Ep116. Do Russia's Domestic Politics make it a Disorderer?
    May 6, 2025 – 54:34
  • Ep115. Is the American Dream Dead?
    May 1, 2025 – 46:55
  • Ep114. Trump’s True Goals and Trench Warfare in the Courts
    Apr 29, 2025 – 01:00:12
  • Ep113. What’s America Without Allies? With Kori Schake
    Apr 22, 2025 – 40:58
  • Ep112. Tariffs and The Divergence of US and Europe
    Apr 15, 2025 – 01:03:59
  • Ep111. Crypto Corruption: Trump 2.0 with Frank Vogl
    Apr 7, 2025 – 01:04:59
  • Ep110. Ransomware in our age of Disorder with RUSI’s Jamie MacColl
    Apr 1, 2025 – 45:34
  • Ep109. Sir Bill Browder, Stephanie Baker, and Jason LIVE from the Frontline Club
    Mar 27, 2025 – 01:13:40
  • Ep108. (Part 2) How to Combat Extreme Ideas with Julia Ebner
    Mar 25, 2025 – 53:52
  • Ep107. (Part 1) The Hidden Logic of Extremist Conspiracy Theories with Julia Ebner
    Mar 18, 2025 – 46:34
  • Ep106. Europe’s Role In the Battle For an Orderly World - Disorder LIVE SHOW
    Mar 13, 2025 – 54:49
  • Ep105. Neoliberalism: The Ultimate Disorderer? With George Monbiot
    Mar 11, 2025 – 55:40
  • Ep104. Trump and Putin - the Bromance reignited: with Sir Bill Browder
    Mar 4, 2025 – 54:41
  • Ep103 Navigating Political Backlash and Keir Starmer's Mega Ordering Opportunity
    Feb 27, 2025 – 53:35
  • Ep102 An All-American constitutional crisis?
    Feb 25, 2025 – 01:03:21
  • Ep101 Munich Security Conference 2025 – What does it mean for European Security?
    Feb 18, 2025 – 42:09
  • Ep100. Britain's Military: A Tool for Global Ordering?
    Feb 11, 2025 – 50:33
  • Ep.99 The New Age of Political Influence
    Feb 6, 2025 – 42:42
  • Ep.98 Disorder Emergency cast – Tariffs, Impoundment, Gaza, AID Freeze, and plane crash
    Feb 4, 2025 – 55:46
  • Ep97. Does Diplomatic Secrecy actually Work? And What’s Next for Centre-Left Politics?
    Jan 30, 2025 – 45:16
  • Ep96. Saved by God to Make American Great Again
    Jan 28, 2025 – 01:04:30
  • Ep95. Fox News, Elon, and Neo-populists: Engines of Deliberate Disorder?
    Jan 21, 2025 – 49:22
  • Ep94. Gaza Ceasefire: What’s Next?
    Jan 16, 2025 – 57:52
  • Ep93. Africa in the Age of Disorder
    Jan 14, 2025 – 52:02
  • Ep92. Trump 2.0: A Shift Away from Neoconservatism?
    Jan 7, 2025 – 01:04:01
  • Ep91. An Orderly or Disorderly New Year?
    Dec 31, 2024 – 01:05:45
  • Ep90. A Disorderly Christmas Special
    Dec 24, 2024 – 59:40
  • Ep89. Canada: 2025’s stealth mega orderers?
    Dec 17, 2024 – 49:07
  • Ep88. Syria: New Order or Fresh Chaos?
    Dec 11, 2024 – 01:01:12
  • Ep.87 Syria, Georgia, South Korea, France, Ireland, Hunter Biden, oh my
    Dec 9, 2024 – 01:05:07
  • Ep86. Is Democracy Dead? Or actually alive and kicking?
    Dec 3, 2024 – 01:05:41
  • Ep85. Thanksgiving Special: Taiwan, Identity Politics, and Can Taylor Swift Order the Disorder?
    Nov 28, 2024 – 48:30
  • Ep84. Through the Looking Glass: Trump’s Appointments and Can Starmer do Global Leadership?
    Nov 26, 2024 – 49:55
  • Ep83. Trump Derangement Syndrome with the Two Matts
    Nov 19, 2024 – 40:28
  • Ep82. Fool me twice: Shame on me
    Nov 12, 2024 – 01:05:32
  • Ep81. Disorder Trumped Order
    Nov 6, 2024 – 01:00:56
  • Ep80. What does the Post-Election Future hold? 
    Nov 5, 2024 – 40:58
  • Ep79. Trick or Treat? Spooky Trump or Visionless Harris?
    Oct 31, 2024 – 47:48
  • Ep78. China’s Economic Disorder: Overproduction, Oversupply, Overcapacity, oh my!
    Oct 29, 2024 – 54:22
  • Ep.77. The System is Rigged: Conspiracy theories and the revenge of the losers
    Oct 22, 2024 – 56:34
  • Ep76. Can Sanctions help us Order the Disorder?
    Oct 17, 2024 – 01:08:34
  • Ep75. What can Backgammon teach us about Ordering the Disorder?
    Oct 15, 2024 – 38:24
  • Ep74. Part2: The Case for Palestinian Statehood
    Oct 8, 2024 – 39:30
  • Ep73. Part1: Commemorating the October 7 Massacre
    Oct 7, 2024 – 54:50
  • Ep72. JD Vance vs Tim Walz: A gentlemanly Disorderer in a crisp suit vs a folksy Midwestern Orderer
    Oct 3, 2024 – 50:03
  • Ep71. Nasrallah Killed in Lebanon – What’s Next?
    Oct 1, 2024 – 48:55
  • Ep70. Peak Disorder in Bangladesh
    Sep 26, 2024 – 55:48
  • Ep69. Life in North Korea, Kidnapping Stories, and Why Symbolism Matters with Dictators -- Jordan Harbinger on Tyrants and Disorderers
    Sep 24, 2024 – 50:29
  • Ep68. Disorder’s One Year Anniversary
    Sep 19, 2024 – 01:09:08
Recent Reviews
  • Democracy is my Religion
    Truth!
    Thank you for telling the truth!
  • Cat939
    Warmongering garbage
    Hateful warmongers
  • Eastern Washington
    Academically astute, slightly insufferable
    Enjoy the podcast, mainly because I still value spending your whole life learning, living abroad, and challenging attention deficit societal quirks. However, I can understand why some people might think it is a tad insufferable. Trump is popular because he can distill his entire flawed platform down to three words (lock her up; drain the swamp; etc.) whereas Jason and Alex go the other route: actually using experience, history, and academia to suss out difficult concepts and conundrums, while never shying away from complex, hyper-literate rhetoric. Scratches my itch, but can understand why some are turned off.
  • Mr. Bunbundo
    Presidential Showdown
    presidential-showdown/ Enjoying Disorder, Especially the analysis of the recent debate. I have listened to a few other shows. One thing that I have noticed is that there is little reference to the population dynamics in the U S at the present time. Economic conditions, political claims or fears, the substantial gap between boomers and gen X . The numbers of mid career players on any work force is substantially less than the retiring boomers. An almost certain catalyst to Disruption. Future determinants “Resentment and Scarcity.??? Provocative show👍 Sent from my iPhone
  • Noname9876541
    Democratic candidate must be on Ohio ballot
    Jason Pack, It is still critical that a Democratic Party candidate is on the Ohio ballot. Remember there are still downballot candidates that are critical. If there's no Democratic Party Presidential candidate, many voters who might vote for Senator Brown won't vote at all.
  • JanMasaryk
    1st: it’s “listen here bae, you come at the king, you best not miss”
    2nd: Theodore Roosevelt got shot and lost the election to Wilson 3rd: in terms of messaging and the “out of touch, DC liberal Atlanticist” stereotype, the “I was in the Swedish archipelago at a backgammon tournament” is a little too on the nose. To channel Fareed Zakaria after 9/11: “this is why they (in the Red hats) hate us.” Trump said “fight” for his and his supporters vision of the United States domestically (Project 2025) and our willingness to support our ideals abroad (Ukraine). The question we face is are we willing to fight back? Sincerely, Rust belt voter from Pennsylvania who believes in the post WWII liberal international order
  • Sfbillz
    Good content but that voice
    I’m familiar with the joke “he has a face for radio”. This guy has a “voice for mime”.
  • LaborerMike
    Great guest interviews
    They have really excellent guests and conduct pretty good interviews. My only complaint is the guy has some really insane militaristic views. More than once I have thought his policy recommendations would end in ww3 or a nuclear holocaust. Maybe that’s how center left technocrats thinks about strategy and policy?🤷🏻‍♂️ Probably why he’s running a podcast for nato
  • Woke Scolded
    Empathy to cure disorder
    We didn’t win in Vietnam because we didn’t show any empathy for the Vietcong. Really? Meanwhile, it is very important to show empathy for groups like Hamas, but then the host said we have to have boundaries when applying empathy for Brexiteers and Trump supporters because groups like that are so intolerable and don’t deserve empathy. Ah yes, weaponize empathy and make sure to dole it out based on the victim hierarchy. This is why we have such disorder. This podcast isn’t trying to end “disorder” but fulminate it.
  • Jenfen83
    5 stars
    Excellent, balanced podcast covering intractable issues
  • Judishka
    Yes
    This podcast is my lifeline of clarity when things are completely hopeless and overwhelming.
  • JoeyGe
    close-minded
    Anyone not aligned with the host’s far-left authoritarian views is a disorderer and of course antidemocratic. If you’ve listened to one episode, you’ve heard them all.
  • A2Greg
    Excellent insights from hosts and guests
    Usually, I treat politics like the weather, something to be enjoyed or endured depending on conditions. Jason and Alexandra as hosts, and their guests, bring enthusiasm and experience to a lively debate on how can we, as a species (my wording), deal with the the constant change ‘dis-ordering’ our lives.
  • Miller Svoboda
    Nope
    Only a few minutes in it became apparent this is a one-sided, uneducated view.
  • HMBiii4
    B
    Great Podcast!!!
  • Map2mark
    Can It Really Be Re-Ordered?
    Can the West exert enough energy to equilibrate the entropic disordering we are seeing? I’d love these two proponents, whom I admire, have on and debate Peter Zeihan, whom I also admire and follow. How about it?
  • Anfield1976
    Israel/ Palestine Episode
    I got through ten minutes of this episode and could not carry on. Who chose these people to talk about this issue? The incredible bias and unabashed pro Israeli stance was too much to bear. Even in the opening lines, the lady talked about the unconscionable Oct 7 attacks but the unfortunate Palestinian suffering. Goalhanger got everything right up until putting these two Zionist idiots together to talk about such a huge topic. Any serious follower of this issue would not take this seriously.
  • aesaphzei
    Don’t waste your time.
    I’ve listened to all 14 ep released so far and it does not get any better. The potential was there with the hosts having first hand accounts of events but their Fukuyamaesque takes on political issues sound outdated to me as an American millennial. It’s also very narrow minded in its worldview for a podcast on “global” disorder. If you think your positions are so obvious that you take them for granted, then you fail to see the criticisms against them because they sound absurd to you. I highly recommend the producers to reconsider further continuing the show because it’s spreading harmful misinformation.
  • Queenie76
    Best new podcast
    My new favourite podcast for foreign policy. Their insights and contextualization of current events is unparalleled.
  • SandyNATO
    Amazing
    Love it. Deep insights. So fresh.
  • NATOfightsBACK
    Best Conceptualization of the global system
    Best Conceptualization of the global system of any podcast I’ve ever listened to. Super fun, chatty, and great banter with guests.
Similar Podcasts
Disclaimer: The podcast and artwork on this page are property of the podcast owner, and not endorsed by UP.audio.